Keith Halstead
New member
Rob said:
Thanks Rob.
NATIONAL DAY 2024
- Thread starter Rick
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Thanks Rob.
In answer to your question,
We arranged to get a food wagon on site as in a "burger van" but when we approached them we could only find one that was suitable within a relative distance to Hethel,
We wanted some sort of breakfast menu for the early arrivals and could also do a lunchtime menu!
However on Thursday we were let down and at that stage it was too late to organize anything else!
We had a quick conversation between the committee and found a Pizza Parlour close by that would deliver to CTL.
By doing this depending on attendance on the day we could purchase as many as required these were to be purchased with compliments of the LCR.
We could then hopefully cover everyone's taste as we then had the vegetarian option as well as traditional food which was an issue with the burger vans!
Incidentally just in case anyone is interested the cost of the vans pretty much were on 2 tariffs as some required a "one off" hire payment of circa £2,500 or depending on sales an initial £1500 up front then minus the cost of sales up to £2,500 so they needed £1000 worth of sales otherwise the LCR would be liable for the balance If this wasn't reached!
As you may or may not know we had to supply our own toilets as we were not allowed to use CTL's own as the premises were closed and only open during the tour. This was initially a problem as the hired toilet bloc were electric flush and of course needed power for lighting etc so we needed a generator.
The club generator was stolen by a club member(yes club member) many years ago and never replaced!!!
I could not get my own personal generator to work despite stripping and cleaning everything as it hadn't been used since the Sunday of the British Grand Prix in 1992! Rob Ford stepped in that week and offered us his which he brought up!
Fortunately Wayne the CTL Fiberglass body repairer was contracted to do overtime for the whole weekend to get a bonnet finished and painted for a wealthy customer, was on site and offered us the use of his 240v supply from within his container workshop!
Cost of toilets one day hire £714inc Vat then an extra payment of £90+Vat for special delivery on Saturday for drivers O/T
So like all organized events not as straight forward or as cheap as people think!!
Regards
Andy
We arranged to get a food wagon on site as in a "burger van" but when we approached them we could only find one that was suitable within a relative distance to Hethel,
We wanted some sort of breakfast menu for the early arrivals and could also do a lunchtime menu!
However on Thursday we were let down and at that stage it was too late to organize anything else!
We had a quick conversation between the committee and found a Pizza Parlour close by that would deliver to CTL.
By doing this depending on attendance on the day we could purchase as many as required these were to be purchased with compliments of the LCR.
We could then hopefully cover everyone's taste as we then had the vegetarian option as well as traditional food which was an issue with the burger vans!
Incidentally just in case anyone is interested the cost of the vans pretty much were on 2 tariffs as some required a "one off" hire payment of circa £2,500 or depending on sales an initial £1500 up front then minus the cost of sales up to £2,500 so they needed £1000 worth of sales otherwise the LCR would be liable for the balance If this wasn't reached!
As you may or may not know we had to supply our own toilets as we were not allowed to use CTL's own as the premises were closed and only open during the tour. This was initially a problem as the hired toilet bloc were electric flush and of course needed power for lighting etc so we needed a generator.
The club generator was stolen by a club member(yes club member) many years ago and never replaced!!!
I could not get my own personal generator to work despite stripping and cleaning everything as it hadn't been used since the Sunday of the British Grand Prix in 1992! Rob Ford stepped in that week and offered us his which he brought up!
Fortunately Wayne the CTL Fiberglass body repairer was contracted to do overtime for the whole weekend to get a bonnet finished and painted for a wealthy customer, was on site and offered us the use of his 240v supply from within his container workshop!
Cost of toilets one day hire £714inc Vat then an extra payment of £90+Vat for special delivery on Saturday for drivers O/T
So like all organized events not as straight forward or as cheap as people think!!
Regards
Andy
Keith Halstead
New member
What a tale of disasters. :shock:
I can certainly understand the reluctance of any vendor to pitch up with his van & stock to sell a few burgers or hotdogs, as the cost outweighs the profit with the numbers attending. I only saw the initial announcement so didn't provide for us. Luckily Tony found a source of sandwiches about 30 minutes away.
Deliveroo is the way forward.
I can certainly understand the reluctance of any vendor to pitch up with his van & stock to sell a few burgers or hotdogs, as the cost outweighs the profit with the numbers attending. I only saw the initial announcement so didn't provide for us. Luckily Tony found a source of sandwiches about 30 minutes away.
Deliveroo is the way forward.
Lotus Outlaws
New member
Well , Well ,Well just has i suspected Rick. I have been told by a little bird that it was one big flop and not even a flip just a flop. 14 cars of which a handful of those were even trailered and not driven and even the hot dog man refused to turn up ! . When i tried to advise a better venue you shot me down Rick in a hail of bullets . Its always your way and no other way and i think you owe me an apology as it was put on in no mans land . The best thing was Rick after all that you didn't even turn up there yourself " Shocking " .
P.S went to cortina day symonds yat 100 plus cars and loads of friendly faces and plenty to eat .
Regards
Chris
P.S went to cortina day symonds yat 100 plus cars and loads of friendly faces and plenty to eat .
Regards
Chris
Rob
New member
Chris
Was your little bird at the same event as me
I enjoyed the whole weekend, always good to catch up with fellow Lotus enthusiast
Also great to talk to the Lotus staff
Yes my car was on a truck ( Good job actually as I had problems with it on Sunday ) Wayne & Keith were also on Trailor's but why is that an issue ?
I thought 15 cars attending was a good result ?
We managed to fill up the area we were allocated
Out of interest were there many Lotus Cortinas at Symond’s Yat ?
All the best
Rob
Was your little bird at the same event as me
I enjoyed the whole weekend, always good to catch up with fellow Lotus enthusiast
Also great to talk to the Lotus staff
Yes my car was on a truck ( Good job actually as I had problems with it on Sunday ) Wayne & Keith were also on Trailor's but why is that an issue ?
I thought 15 cars attending was a good result ?
We managed to fill up the area we were allocated
Out of interest were there many Lotus Cortinas at Symond’s Yat ?
All the best
Rob
Keith Halstead
New member
Rob said:
That would be at the 2012 bash at Brands.
Lotus Outlaws said:
Owe you an apology, it will be a cold day in hell before you get that, Glad you had a good day at Symonds Yat, as you are taking personal attacks on me you seem to forget that the LCR are made up of a committee, the committee sanctioned the venue. those that went and went on the CTL tour which was subsidised by the LCR, really enjoy it, Did you get to chat with Bob Dance, Jim Clarks race engineer, or meet and chat with Clive Chapman, Colin Chapmans son and CEO of CTL, no you didn't. as with all functions there is always a bit of hit and miss. you missed a good day "Shocking"
Lotus Outlaws
New member
yes rob he was at the same event as you and if you think 15 cars is a good turn out fair play to you i call it a flop nothing wrong with trailering cars you obviously did not want the 5 hour round trip in a lotus cortina and im sure mr dance and mr chapman would have prefferd to chat a bigger crowd rick you say it is down to the commitee how many comitee members are there maybe you should listen to other peoples ideas maybe its time for a different commitee with some new ideas to get this club geed up again it seems to me that as long as the usual suspects are happy in ther own little bubble then thats good enough 
Michael Winstock
New member
I haven't been to a national day for very many years but back in the day we certainly used to get far more cars than the 14 or 15 that apparently turned up at Hethel.
The low numbers were obviously not because of a lack of publicity or bad weather so could it possibly have been the location?
I am certainly not taking sides in the LCR versus Lotus Outlaws spat but maybe, just maybe, a more central location would prove more popular.
I still read the LCR forum regularly but some of the recent posts do seem too full of anger/sarcasm/blaming others etc., etc.
We are supposed to be a club for enthusiasts of the Lotus Cortina........we seem to be turning into a platform for people to vent their spleens on anything and everything but cars.
The low numbers were obviously not because of a lack of publicity or bad weather so could it possibly have been the location?
I am certainly not taking sides in the LCR versus Lotus Outlaws spat but maybe, just maybe, a more central location would prove more popular.
I still read the LCR forum regularly but some of the recent posts do seem too full of anger/sarcasm/blaming others etc., etc.
We are supposed to be a club for enthusiasts of the Lotus Cortina........we seem to be turning into a platform for people to vent their spleens on anything and everything but cars.
Steve 155C
New member
The problem is people are happy to complain about things but are not prepared to do anything about it. There is an annual AGM. How many people who complain use that to get change? I'll answer that, it's zero. There are various committee positions that have been vacant for years.. No takers. If you think the club needs a shake up, step forward and do that.
Lotus Outlaws
New member
well michael thats all i tried to suggest a central event before i got the sacasm from a commitee member this is what your up against its alright listening to mr dance and mr chapmans events from 50 plus years ago but it would be nice to bring these cars and stories up to today pictures of vur cars parked up together works cars being trailed about hows about seeing these cars in action what you saying rob hill climb sprint track santapod trackday etc ive got a stunning lotus cortina as mint as any out there and i will race any road car any time any place any where forget mr dance lets dance ps ill even put a few quid down what you saying rob :?:
Lotus Outlaws
New member
so does this mean your days of racing are gone or not gone your track car against my road car odds in your favour but im in name your place :?:
Lotus Outlaws
New member
ive got too many toys and not enough time but certain things you have to make time what about your red race thats already dug out
Michael Winstock
New member
We have a nasty case of subject drift in this post!
All interesting stuff but way off the original topic!
All interesting stuff but way off the original topic!
Rob
New member
I agree
Getting back to the subject ‘The LCR National’
Ive been to the Cortina show at Symonds Yat and yes it is a good event…..But it’s a general all round Cortina show not a Lotus Cortina show ??
Do we know how many Lotus Cortinas were at Symonds Yat
Not many I was told ?
I enjoyed talking to the Lotus guys at Hethel
We even had a laugh discussing Alan Mann Cars and Team Lotus cars… Who's cars were better back in the day ?
Do you think those guys at Hethel that live & breath Lotus are going to be interested in a mk3 XL or a mk4 ghia…I dont think so ?
The venue at Hethel was a great weekend for a genuine Lotus Cortina enthusiast… I just wish I had more time to do the tour
Thats just my opinion
Maybe Im looking at it wrong ?
Getting back to the subject ‘The LCR National’
Ive been to the Cortina show at Symonds Yat and yes it is a good event…..But it’s a general all round Cortina show not a Lotus Cortina show ??
Do we know how many Lotus Cortinas were at Symonds Yat
Not many I was told ?
I enjoyed talking to the Lotus guys at Hethel
We even had a laugh discussing Alan Mann Cars and Team Lotus cars… Who's cars were better back in the day ?
Do you think those guys at Hethel that live & breath Lotus are going to be interested in a mk3 XL or a mk4 ghia…I dont think so ?
The venue at Hethel was a great weekend for a genuine Lotus Cortina enthusiast… I just wish I had more time to do the tour
Thats just my opinion
Maybe Im looking at it wrong ?
Lotus Outlaws
New member
rob how do you that they are not into mk3 and mk4s ive had 30 lotus cortinas in 20 years and ive just bought a mini moke ps six lotus cortinas and lots to do and see nice to see the likes of will painton there whoes got probley the best collection of lotus cortinas in the country me and him were happy sitting along side the other cortinas hundreds of people chatting and laughing enjoying for hours sounds like you lads with your twelve cars had the same exciting same bat time same bat channel same bat place next year then ah yes we did go of the subject but i was only tryining to put excitment by saying lets get some of these cars on the track it seems to me that alot of people who have got these cars just like looking at them and talking about them even race cars wow me most sundays side on action opposite lock eight and a half thousand revs every gear change two black lines up the tarmac whoes he daddy boys ps i could vidioes on here but the negative comments will come as usual 8)